kumarski 8 months ago

The smoke reminded me of back home in India.

We burn lignite ash coal, it's 50% low quality coal.

About 0.5M Indians die yearly from air particulates. http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/pollution-particulate-matte...

  • justboxing 8 months ago

    Yeah. I remember that. To make matters worse, people continue to burn trash in Delhi despite fines, which just makes the already bad air quaility even worse.

    Source: Garbage burning undermines AAP govt’s focus on reducing air pollution http://www.hindustantimes.com/delhi-news/garbage-burning-und...

    • krzyk 8 months ago

      Do you get such low temperatures in India that coal burning is an issue? How many months do you need heating?

      • bdamm 8 months ago

        "India" is a huge country that includes some of the tallest and coldest mountains anywhere in the world. There are places in India where heating is required 100% of the time.

        I'm unaware of how much of New Delhi needs heating. Even tropics can be cool at night.

      • usefulcat 8 months ago

        Coal-fired power plants?

        • kumarski 8 months ago

          Correct.

          We're opening one every month til the USA gives us unfettered uranium/plutonium access rights. We were kept like this for 50 years.....

Animats 8 months ago

The Santa Rosa area is being hit hard. See the Cal Fire map.[1] Two of the fires in Sonoma have connected since last night, and it looks like the Patrick Fire and the Norrborn Fire will connect soon. Many towns are already gone. Santa Rosa looks like it will make it.

I have friends in Lake County. They're helping evacuate horses from areas that are worse off.

[1] http://www.fire.ca.gov/general/firemaps

jimmywanger 8 months ago

Yeah. This is time for me to get on my high horse about controlled burns and fire being part of the ecosystem.

We've gotten so good at fighting fires that there is so much underbrush built up that one spark causes huge catastrophes like this, rather than a whole rash of little fires.

The bay area is so built-up that a lot of people really are building where they shouldn't be building, or don't do proper fire safety measures, such as cut back trees for 50 feet around their house and clear out underbrush. So even the "natural" little fires cause great property damage and need to be fought, giving these huge blazes enough fuel to really spread beyond any hope of containment.

At this point I think they're just trying to divert the fire, save lives, and hope it burns out soon.

nicolashahn 8 months ago

I live in SF (Bernal Heights) and had to brush ashes off my motorcycle before I left for work today. For the last few days, every time I went outside it smelled like a campfire. Some coworkers just dropped off supplies in Petaluma this morning.

Really glad I'm on this side of the water.

gdubs 8 months ago

Los Altos here. A bit better tonight than last night, when it smelled like a campfire and the sky was a thick orange. My main concern is our young ones.

Also, the houses here weren’t really built for this (or the dangerous heat waves we endured this summer). Poorly insulated, designed for very moderate Northern California weather.

And we’re just the periphery - the side effect of the tragedy unfolding just an hour north of here.

Stay safe - keep an eye on the air quality reports and take them seriously.

sizzzzlerz 8 months ago

Live and work in the south bay and yesterday was really bad. This morning I could still smell the smoke but the skies seemed a bit clearer. Yesterday, though, the conditions reminded me of pictures from China where the pollution is so dense, your field of view appears to be around 10 meters or less. I could barely make out the mountains east of my home.

pmoriarty 8 months ago

Don't underestimate how bad smoke is for your health. If you are in an affected area, try to work from home, stay indoors, and order in.

These days you can even get groceries delivered and laundry picked up, so take advantage of that and save your health!

You can also buy portable air purifiers online and have those delivered as well.

ProfessorLayton 8 months ago

The air quality in the East Bay is so poor that my home smelled like I left the windows open during a BBQ this morning.

  • craftyguy 8 months ago

    We had that up in the PNW for pretty much all summer. Welcome to the experience.

  • kingnothing 8 months ago

    That's the same in basically every apartment in SF right now, too.

  • aidenn0 8 months ago

    How is the temperature? I live in SoCal, and usually the bad wildfires happen at the same time as the Santa Anas, so it's either close your windows and overheat, or open your windows and damage your lungs.

    • gnicholas 8 months ago

      It's heating up this weekend, but will only be in mid-80s (at least near Palo Alto — perhaps 90s in the East Bay). So far, it's not too much of a dilemma: windows closed, AC off.

    • gnopgnip 8 months ago

      The high is around 80 on Sunday, 70 today. It really depends on what neighborhood you are in. Some are higher and most are a little lower.

terrabytes 8 months ago

Even the SF city has been unbelievably smoky the last couple of days.

bobsil1 8 months ago

280 was unbelievably smoky yesterday. Hills next to road hard to see.

mesozoic 8 months ago

Cosplay as China day.

stupidcomments 8 months ago

Air filter startup - stop it temporariliy

CiGaReTte StArTuP - a CaPtAiN MusT gO DoWn wItH hiS ShIp [free logo](https://imgur.com/a/ULDQ2)

Environmental discussion forum (for non-academics) - something like HN but focused solely on making a better planet, rather than general tech.

Fuel cell / hydrogen splitting startup - longer range, lower coal burning and thus global temps, thus fires

Fan startup - blow the smoke somewhere back mainland

Rain seeding startup - drop rain on wildfires (maybe this is already dooable?)

Recycled furniture from ash startup - create cements with the ashes of civilization and use it to build a new one

Keywords to sell your idea to investors: blockchain, neural nets

Dirlewanger 8 months ago

Boohoo, poor Silicon Valley! I can't sit outside comfortably drinking my kale smoothie today!