msadowski 5 years ago

I have been working as a consultant/contractor since May last year.

I found my first jobs on UpWork, where Robotics is quite niche field. Being a niche field there are not many jobs available (I'd estimate there are 2-3 a month that fit my skill set) but also there are not so many freelancers doing Robotics.

Starting on any freelancers platform you need to start building reputation, which can mean you will need to sell yourself well or do the first project for peanuts (my first one was converting some Python to C# that took me 8 days and I earned 10$). In the second project I earned about 2k$ and in further ones I was already earning more per hour then in my previous job.

My advice is anecdotal but if someone advertises "a simple project for ..." then they don't treat it very seriously and won't be willing to pay for quality. The clients willing to pay more for your services will also respect your time more and are usually much easier to communicate with.

Avoid fixed price contracts if you can unless you know exactly how to do the project and can predict any pitfalls. Charging by the hour/day/week/month is in my opinion least risky and if you encounter huge issues you are still paid to fix them.

Speaking of issues. Firstly make sure that you know the requirements clearly, before starting development make sure you understand all stakeholders. As you are developing the project communicate frequently with the client about any doubts to the client and make sure you are on the same page. If you see anything off - communicate this! The requirements will never be perfect and if you put yourself in the user's shoes you will be able to identify things your client missed and this way you will be bringing an extra value by solving problems before they even arise.

Sorry for the wall of text, hopefully you will find any of this useful. If you have any questions feel free to ask here or e-mail me (I hope my e-mail is in my profile).

Good luck!

  • sgillen 5 years ago

    Can you speak at all as to what skills are in most demand for robotics? It’s such a broad field it’s hard to know what to focus on in order to be marketable.

    Do you think your education matters? Do people want to see a masters/PhD or is gaining more experience the important thing for landings these sorts of jobs.

    Thanks!

    • msadowski 5 years ago

      That's true that the field is very broad. I'm mostly focused on software (doing a lot of ROS in R&D setting at the moment). From what I heard there is quite a de,amd for integrators of robot arms (at least in Europe) but I can't really say anything more about other Robotics related skills.

      I have a master's degree and don't know if it affects anyone's decision about hiring me for a contract. My feeling is that the companies I work with now value my experience much more than my degree but personally I learned so much studying Mechatronics/Robotics that I'd highly recommend doing it if you are not experienced in Robotics and want to start working in the field.

  • Kagerjay 5 years ago

    It's crazy what kind of services you can find on upwork

    For instance, food scientists

Evan_Hellmuth 5 years ago

I did this less than a year ago. Two things I wish I had done off the bat:

1) Choose a specific skillset that you want to use and only accept jobs in that skillset. For me that should have been React/Node projects (even this is too general, but much better than “web programmer”). People hire consultants for instant productivity, and the type of person that has so little experience working with technologists that they expect instant competence after you tell them “yeah I used Python for a personal project” probably won’t be a great client. Ultimately you’ll want to own a business problem, possibly combined with a technological skillset, but that’s something you can think about after you’ve set up a steady stream of work.

2) Use a “premium” recruiter or agency. Gun.io, Toptal, something like that. They don’t lock you in, you’re still free to find your own work, but they will save you SO much time and they’ll find SO much work that you wouldn’t have been able to find on your own. Use them to find projects in which you can hone the specific skillset you chose and make it more specific.

After a project or two you’ll have a feel for what’s out there and you can start tweaking your rate and how you market yourself. Also, consider reading Developer Hegemony to get a (pretty cynical) feel for the business side of things. Feel free to reach out if you want to chat further (email in profile).

  • mdn0420 5 years ago

    #1 is something I've been pondering as well. I've been developing games on Unity for quite some time but questioning if I'd be better off retooling into a tech stack that is higher demand?

    • abakker 5 years ago

      I think unity is in demand for VR/AR rendering and CAD work. I think of geospatial data get presented that way, too.

    • Evan_Hellmuth 5 years ago

      Haven’t seen much demand for Unity contractors, but haven’t been looking either. It might be worth reaching out to a game studio recruiter or two to get a sense of how receptive Unity shops are to hiring contractors.

punnerud 5 years ago

It's all about creating value for your customer. "Don't give me some trend analysis, give me actionable insight ". Recommend watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2SdmYuMMIg

I earn $180000/year, recently raised my rate to $280/h and working 40h/weeks. Feel I create way more value for my customers than my cost, so I started several small projects in parallell the last months to move away from consulting. Most of them was about a week of work and give about $10000/year with minimum maintenance.

Started building webpages, but figured out that this in itself don't solve a problem I can't fix with some sitebuilder (all about value). All my value creation in now in gathering data from different (API) sources into and databases and generating custom reports on this data. The most important skills I need is Python and SQL, stuff I did not know under 3 years ago.

For the $10000/year examples I make some prototypes, try to understand the business I try to sell to and calculate something I don't think they already easily know that will increase their revenue way more that my cost. Then I make the cold call (<3min), just to ask if I can send them an email with some analysis. They almost always get back the next day with an email or call back for more details or some adjustments.

Hope to go all into startup in a near future, only focusing on this. Love the feeling of solving real problems and see people willing to pay for it recurring <3

  • ryanjmo 5 years ago

    Hey! It sounds like both your consulting and budding start-up are very interesting. I'm looking to get into consulting. Python and SQL and my specialties.

    If you want to cut back on your consulting perhaps I can try to take some of the work off of you. I could work under you at half your price $140/h, so you could spend more time on your start-up and still be making money from your consulting and keep your clients. It makes sense for me as it would be a quick way for me to get into consulting and it seems like you already have the workflow, etc down.

    Or perhaps you would want to work with someone on your startup. I have had a few successful start-ups over the years.

    You can check my LinkedIn and my email is in my HN profile. Get in touch if you are interested!

  • thisismyswamp 5 years ago

    Any ideas for lucrative side projects?

3pt14159 5 years ago

1. Bill by the half-day, but don't charge for a 10 minute fix unless a client starts to get annoying.

2. In your first year aim for half of what you made the previous year. Take the best clients you can, but make sure you hit that or you'll stop. Don't take work that makes you feel icky.

3. Talk to people. Spend about 35% of your time doing it. Do work for free if you need to, but get someone talking one way or another or your pipeline will dry up.

4. By two years in you'll find a client that will make up over 50% of your billable. Do whatever it takes to make them happy. Even if you lose the client for reasons outside your control, make sure that the decision maker that brought you in feels like you did your best. They'll bring you in again, even if it isn't there.

tptacek 5 years ago

* Raise your rates. You need to charge _way_ more than your FTE rate. _Way_ more.

* Say "no" to prospects that don't fit your practice/price.

* Avoid freelancing/matching sites.

* Don't bill hourly. Don't track hours.

* Specialize.

* Be prepared for clients to be very late on payments.

* You can't stop selling when you hit capacity. Be intentional about smoothing your utilization out.

  • topoftheforts 5 years ago

    > Don't track hours.

    Probably you don't mean it in this way, but I found time tracking to be very very useful, even when not tracking with the purpose of invoicing for your time.

  • juliusmusseau 5 years ago

    > Don't track hours.

    In Canada there are important federal tax credits (e.g., SR&ED) that work best if staff and contractors track hours in at least 4-hour chunks.

    But if a client hopes to get tax credits back for your hours, that's another good reason to raise your rates!

  • stockkid 5 years ago

    > You can't stop selling when you hit capacity. Be intentional about smoothing your utilization out.

    Could you explain more?

    • runako 5 years ago

      Not the OP, but after consulting for many years, I could make some educated guesses.

      If you stop selling (networking, outreach, etc.) when you're fully utilized now, you will impair your ability to stay utilized later. If you have a project that you expect to wind down in 90 days, communicate that to prospects without pushing them away.

      For example, we overestimate what a start time of "now" means in business. Sometimes, it's "today." Other times, "now" means "right after I get back from vacation, roughly 3 weeks from now" or "this quarter." Depending on the client, contracts + background check and other on boarding can take weeks of (unpaid) calendar time.

      I've seen people turn away work slated for a start date of "soon" because they were on a project for another few weeks. A better move would have been to let the client know the existing project was winding down but let's get the paperwork started now for a quick start later.

scarface74 5 years ago

Daedtech has an excellent article

https://daedtech.com/software-consulting/

If you live in a major metropolitan area almost anywhere in the US, and your skillset is in tune with the market, you should be able to find some W2 or 1099 contract quite easily through local recruiters. Yeah they will take their cut, but you still should be able to negotiate close to market value. You will definitely get paid more than using something like Upwork.

I’ve been building up a curated list of local third party recruiters for years. I always engage with them when they reach out to me.

Even though they call the above “consulting”, it’s actually closer to just freelancing.

  • hardwaresofton 5 years ago

    Read every single article on daedtech.com related to software consulting (and maybe some that aren't) -- the amount of insight contained inside those articles for free is insane.

    99% of the people who think they are doing consulting (me included) are not doing consulting. If you're getting paid to write software, you're not a consultant, you're a freelancer/service provider. Let those words shake you then read all the writing on daedtech.com to learn why and see if you disagree (you won't).

    • pault 5 years ago

      Even in this thread I see a lot of people conflating consulting with working as a highly paid contractor. I accidentally fell into contracting two years ago when the company I was working for closed unexpectedly. I doubled my yearly income, but I'm still an employee in practice. I will say though, if you can make the leap to contracting with large companies, the pay is insane. I'm currently making about $60k/year over the highest paid salary jobs I could get anywhere else here in Austin, TX. I have to buy my own insurance, but I'm single and childless so it's not a huge deal for me.

      • tptacek 5 years ago

        The distinction between "consulting" and "freelancing" and "contracting" is pretty much fictitious; it's like the consulting version of the "is it really a startup?" game.

        • kasey_junk 5 years ago

          Clearly staff augmentation has different tasks than expert consulting. How do you signal which you want/do?

          • tptacek 5 years ago

            Consultancies take staff-aug projects (and also sometimes turn them down). It's part of the dealflow.

            The easiest way to signal that you don't want a staff-aug gig is to say "no" when you're offered a staff-aug gig. Advanced: counterpropose with a project proposal.

            People overthink this stuff, I think.

            The one important thing to know is that it's important to be "available"; even if you're not going to pick up the staff-aug gigs, it's probably best to entertain them (and, even more advanced: refer them out to other people), because you can only say "no" 1-2 times before people will stop asking you for anything.

            I don't believe "expert consulting", as apart from "freelancing" or "contracting", is a real thing in our industry.

            • playing_colours 5 years ago

              Can you please elaborate on "I don't believe "expert consulting", as apart from "freelancing" or "contracting", is a real thing in our industry."?

              Many in this topic wrote about being a real consultant rather then a contractor in software industry. By that they mean, as I see, providing advice, recommendation to clients.

              I know you are very experienced in this area, so you mean one cannot be a pure consultant in software?

      • hardwaresofton 5 years ago

        I'm really curious about this -- I actually left Austin to move abroad a while ago, and do contracting (which I erroneously call consulting, though I do also consult). While I plan to return to the US I never considered returning and continuing contracting.

        Based on what you're saying I'd expect that yearly base salary to be over 200k (based on what it was like in Austin years ago), would you mind sharing how you've found good and/or consistent clients which pay you at that rate? Is it mostly bigger companies? Smaller startups? Multiple contracts at a time?

        • pault 5 years ago

          Yes, around $220k this year. I got lucky through a personal referral to a staffing agency, found out how much another team member was making, and asked for that amount. I'm working with a local recruiter who sources talent for some of the bigger companies operating here. My email address is in my profile if you want to connect.

    • krn 5 years ago

      > If you're getting paid to write software, you're not a consultant, you're a freelancer/service provider.

      That's by definition:

      consult verb (used with object): to get information or advice from a person, book, etc. with special knowledge on a particular subject

      https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/consult

      • scarface74 5 years ago

        Yeah but it gives people a warm and fuzzy. Just like companies hiring “senior software engineers with at least three years of experience”.

      • lateaugust 5 years ago

        Writing software is an act of labor, not getting information or advice.

        That definition just proves his point. Or am I missing something?

      • hardwaresofton 5 years ago

        You're right that it's very obviously in the definition of the rowds and should be this simple to classify "software consultancy" by definition, but that's not what's out there in practice.

        How people use (in this case misuse) the term leads to confusion and the linked article (and the other related ones) starts with this fact as the baseline (we're in agreement) and goes into how/why software shops are doing it wrong/mislabeling themselves, and how you can stop doing that. It seems to be exactly what OP is looking for.

        • tptacek 5 years ago

          I don't see anything in the OP asking for an extended semantic debate about the meaning of the word "consultant" or any problem any consultant has that could be solved by it.

    • pault 5 years ago

      Even in this thread I see a lot of people conflating consulting with working as a highly paid contractor. I accidentally fell into contracting two years ago when the company I was working for closed unexpectedly. I doubled my yearly income, but I'm still an employee in practice.

      • tptacek 5 years ago

        Are you perhaps thinking about the distinction between project-based work and staff aug? Staff-aug consulting does essentially make you an effective "employee", just paid differently and with a different level of commitment.

    • Tehchops 5 years ago

      His book is excellent as well.

  • tptacek 5 years ago

    The technical term for the arrangement you're talking about is subcontracting. Subcontracting is not much better than using contracting sites; you can make it work as backfill with partners you trust, but be careful not to fill your schedule with it.

  • gravypod 5 years ago

    That's a really cool article. Are there any lists of incubators that are open to the "rent-a-CTO" idea? It's really an interesting way to get your foot in the door.

  • pythonbase 5 years ago

    Excellent tips. Bookmarking your blog for future reading.

davidscolgan 5 years ago

Welcome to the wild world of consulting! I hope you enjoy your stay, it's the only way to live in my opinion.

What's helped me in my freelancing/consulting journey more than anything else has been building one on one relationships (aka, networking). The more people you know who know what you do, the more opportunities you'll have come your way. Some call it Luck Surface Area.

Join a paid online community of other consultants. Go to meetups around your city. If someone wants to learn programming take them out for coffee. Go to networking events. Give talks in public. Anything that will introduce you to other humans. Then keep track of all of them in a CRM. Follow up with people and provide as much value to them as you can. Participate in Hacker News (this post is increasing the number of people you might meet!). Put it on your Github/Twitter/Website etc.

Ways I've gotten gigs lately:

* Person from my online freelancer community I'd talk with multiple times was working on a project and they needed help, brought me on, now I'm getting more work from that client.

* Someone from college I hadn't talked to in 8 years saw my LinkedIn profile and contacted me about a project for their company.

* Someone saw a comment on HN about my work and reached out to me.

* College student wanted advice on freelancing, I took them out for coffee, 3 months later "I decided not to freelance but I found a client, do you want them?"

* Sitting in a coworking space and person I met yesterday and told about my business says, "I'm getting a full time job, want this client?"

None of these have had to really come from direct "selling" and all of them came to me which in my experience makes it way better since they already want and trust you. I don't even feel like I'm all that good at promoting myself, but I have work because I talk to people.

Happy to chat about this further if you want, my email's in my profile. Best of luck in your consulting!

  • topoftheforts 5 years ago

    I couldn't agree more with this advice. I'm more of a dev than a consultant, but I believe this applies to many fields.

    I quit my job a year ago to start doing freelance/contract work, I never directly looked for clients but just by having good relationships with my former employer, colleagues, and people I know in general, by October I had so many projects on my hand I had to work 80hrs/week for a short period of time.

    Just to re-iterate in how many different ways you can get projects and even long-term clients, this is my "how I've gotten gigs" list:

    * Former employer: when I quit I was 100% honest, boss trusted me and wanted to keep working with me. They are still giving me work

    * Former colleague: he quit right before me, started his own small company, knew he could count on me being a reliable dev, became a long-term client

    * I was looking for devs on Twago, in order to get help in case I had too many jobs on my hand. One of the applicants was a small dev agency looking for projects. They ended up giving me work, instead of the other way around.

    * (most random one) A client I had a few years ago, during my first venture as entrepreneur, messaged me on Skype by mistake, thinking I was somebody else they knew. Turns out they needed a dev, became a long-term client.

    * Went back home to Italy during the summer, rented a room for a few months. My landlord was working in marketing, ended up giving me a few very good clients

aunty_helen 5 years ago

Take a break, honestly. A lot of people seem to be of the opinion that if you don't work your life will start to implode around you.

I've just started my first consulting job via a friend I used to work with. I was 10 months unemployed, living in an exotic country, enjoying myself and building out my own projects. I only ended up taking the job because the pay was good.

Whilst I've been doing my own thing I've met a lot of 'digital nomads.' They all do interesting things and the stories of how they got there are all different. And if they don't like it anymore, they can stop at any time.

In short, there's other options than diving from a job that's burnt you out straight into a consulting gig.

  • kzzzznot 5 years ago

    Unfortunately for a lot of people, their lives will implode if they stop working. If they stop working, they receive no income and have to either eat into savings (if they're lucky) or would otherwise struggle to pay rent/life expenses.

    • aunty_helen 5 years ago

      And I understand that, most people that I meet have jobs. A lot doing marketing, social media, copywriting, language teaching.

      I'm using my savings to bootstrap my idea currently. This side gig I've picked up is a bit of a distraction.

      If I stayed at home and continued to live as I was my runway would've been 3-4 months.

  • zerkten 5 years ago

    It would be interesting to know more about your personal circumstances and how you set yourself up for success here. I feel like we need to start planning long before we get burnt out. For many people it's hard to avoid things like mortgages, or other situations which impose a financial burden of some sort.

    I personally think 10 months off for me would be healthy right now in a lot of ways. It would be survivable financially, but in some ways it would drive a lot of anxiety for my partner and I. The support system doesn't exist for this in the US in the same way it does in other nations either.

    • aunty_helen 5 years ago

      Sure,

      I was living with my girlfriend, got laid off from a startup but was burnt out a good 6 months before. Financial struggles of that company just made it worse. My previous job had been pretty demoralizing too. I needed a change.

      28 yrs old, I got on a plane to Spain with my girlfriend who rented her house out to cover her mortgage. She didn't enjoy it and needed to work to survive financially as I couldn't support both of us not working the whole time. So she left for Aus and now works a desk job there.

      I've been living off savings and money from the sale of my car and bike. The lifestyle is pretty different as technically I live out of a suitcase but the experience is great.

      In 4 months, my visa will expire and I will move or go home. If I don't work I will eventually run out of money. I could live off ~1000Eur a month but I like to socialize so it's closer to 1400.

      There's a lot of people who do it in a more sustainable fashion and on a permanent basis. A couple I know from Cali live here and are renting out their house. He works remotely and she's started teaching English since being here.

      Give it some thought, it's a lot of fun and adventure.

      • jimrhods23 5 years ago

        It's much cheaper to go somewhere like Asia..and the weather is really nice too.

        7 years ago, I was burnt out from my job and wanted a change, so I quit and picked up everything and moved to Asia with my girlfriend (now wife).

        Luckily, I had some savings, so I didn't have to work for a month or two. But, I didn't want to eat through it all, so I got a contracting development job and I stayed there for a year and a half.

        My rent for a really nice apartment in a great part of town was around $200 USD/month. Food was insanely cheap and good.

        It's easy to get lost in that lifestyle though. It's fun, but it's difficult to save money or build a career. There are many distractions and almost all the other expats that I met were only interested in drinking/partying.

        I was glad to finally come home, but happy I had the experience.

eldavido 5 years ago

This whole thread is misguided.

You're starting from a position of what do I have (software dev skill) and trying to backfit a need onto it.

The right mentality is to think hard about your buyer: What are you selling, why would someone buy it, and how would they find you? Ideally it should be some kind of business need, like "I want to stop using Expedia at my hotel and transition to get more direct bookings" or "I need a very high-value, complex system migrated from one thing to another". The more risk/difficulty/P&L impact/fewer people can do it, the more you can charge.

What you don't want to do is come in and just be a coder. Those are a dime a dozen. Even though developer skill varies dramatically, there's no way to really bill for that. Most business buyers are going to see "C# developer" and want to pay the lowest rate they can. It is outrageous how little the pay difference (even at software companies) is between high and low performers. It's like 2x, it should probably be like, 10x (no company outside finance would ever tolerate this kind of pay difference). You will never win charging 2x when the other guy is charging 1x for what, on paper, looks like the same skill (a relationship/reputation can offset this partially).

Don't become a "consultant" unless you want to do sales and marketing full-time, as that is the end-state of a successful consulting career. If that isn't your cup of tea, either find a better dev job (if you want to keep coding professionally) or find a company like 10x who will place you with good clients and do the grunt work for you of selling, where you can simply come in and provide value as a high-skilled technical person (which has its benefits, including decent pay, work from anywhere, put up with less of the posturing/BS of typical office life).

Source: did this. Wasted a lot of time doing bottom-of-the-barrel dev work before I realized probably 95% of the software that gets written in the world is boring, not particularly well paid, and has no real career trajectory in front of it.

  • gwbas1c 5 years ago

    I worked as a contractor early in my career, on a team made up of contractors.

    It's just temp work. It wasn't how I wanted to run my career, but I wouldn't knock anyone for doing it.

dmilicic 5 years ago

If you don't know where to get clients or you don't yet know how to sell yourself, then I suggest applying to one of the premium developer networks like Toptal, Gigster, CodeControl or Pilot.

I found that selling yourself directly to companies as a consultant takes a different set of skills and requires more than just being a great engineer.

However, to get into these developer networks you only have to be good at what you do and their job is then to sell you as a great developer/consultant. You only have to know how to pass technical interviews.

At least that's my recommendation for when you are just starting out.

But to get great consulting contracts you have to pick a niche where it's difficult to find people and be good at it. For example, I got a large contract by just being good at doing bluetooth connections between Android and BLE devices.

PS: I have a referral link to Toptal, but you don't have to use it and can apply via regular means: https://www.toptal.com/#work-with-the-best-programmers-today

sitkack 5 years ago

You need two things 1) an accountant and 2) customers. Lots of people get thrust into consulting because they are given a customer.

Technical skill is required but not sufficient. Even average is ok. What matters is all the stuff around the technology. Most of it being diligence, follow through, following up and being predictable and consistent. You have those and you can write your ticket.

  • szaroubi 5 years ago

    I would add to this the following points: - being 5 minutes ahead of your customer in terms of what is hot and useful (or: the second part is super important) - constantly ensure that your deliver value to your client ( if they negotiate you on price, bring it back to the value your deliver ) - good communication skills (the capacity to explain your thoughts in plain , concise language) - good situational awareness (understand your clients problems and solve for that (not the tech that you want to test) - get your ego out of the way, if your client or someone on their team doesn't accept your solution, raise ) argument once or twice, then stop. Your client understands his/her context better than you. If your solution is not retained, it is not a reflection of how good you are. - steernaway from internal politics. - build good personal relationships with people (your client, their employees, other providers / consultants) this will help you build your network and get more work.

    Hope that helps.

    Personally I had great projects and others were lawyers were involved. But all in all, switching projects every other month, meeting new people , playing with different architectures ... It keeps me sharp and super happy.

    Again hope that helps.

    • sitkack 5 years ago

      Your comment reminds me of something else you touched on, make everyone around you look good to great all the time. Never call anyone out and give tactical advice to all levels. If someone is really into Redis, tell them about some new cool extension module. If someone likes Kafka, show them some new commit that does a cool thing. Go out and seek these things in technologies the customer uses. They think ur on the ball, and they are given something that they can pass on and look even better.

  • akulbe 5 years ago

    I'd add to that, as to some it's not always obvious… in order to get customers, you need to be able to SELL.

    I'd argue sales is more important than the rest of what you need to do to get a successful consulting practice going.

    It's common to focus on the technical skills above all else. That's a fatal mistake.

    I speak from painful experience on this one.

foobar1962 5 years ago

1) Don't quit work until you have a couple of clients lined up.

Seriously, treat it like a side-gig until you make more per hour than the day job.

  • msadowski 5 years ago

    Unless you are very lucky! I've felt really burned down at work and decided to quit without having anything lined up. I had savings that would allow me to keep going for 6 months and a partner who would support me if things went bad and I didn't find work.

    I was lucky to get a long term project two weeks after handing my notice (the notice period in most European countries is 1 month) and from then on I had a steady stream of work.

    Not feeling burned down I would never make a jump without any gigs lined up and thinking about it now makes me feel quite uneasy. Still, health is top priority so if you have savings or someone willing to support you then go for it.

  • gk1 5 years ago

    I quit my job and lived off savings until consulting picked up. I don’t know that I would’ve tried as hard or gotten those first few clients if I was treating it as a side-gig in the evenings.

    • andy_adams 5 years ago

      Depends - I started freelancing with 2 kiddos and little savings, so I had to do the side-gig transition until I was sure it'd make ends meet.

      You definitely need a "fire" keeping you moving, though - if you have savings & low expenses, making the leap to full-time can force you to learn fast.

  • topoftheforts 5 years ago

    On paper this is the most reasonable advice but it's not very realistic and it's definitely not the only choice. When I was thinking about quitting my job, I've encountered this advice a lot and it was very discouraging.

    So I just wanted to reiterate for anyone really struggling in their day job, looking to quit: if it gets too unbearable, there are MANY options.

  • bashwizard 5 years ago

    This. There is no magic to it really.

franze 5 years ago

define consultant?

are you solving a problem/challenge for them? you are not a consultant, you are a contractor, freelancer or agency.

are you telling them - and help implement the mindset and processes - on how they can solve a problem/challenge? you are a consultant.

or to paraphrase jerry weinberg: a consultant gives advise when asked.

if you are the second, read "secrets of consulting" by weinberg (and "are your lights on").

then, what is your product? what do you want to advise on? and find out why this would be so valuable to pay you 10k, 25k, 50k, ...

then, get a client, anyway you can and make sure you deliver 20x to 100x times the value than what you cost (note: make sure your client can and will execute what you advised, otherwise you did not deliver any value). make the client your reference case, market the reference case, go a month on a vacation, your next two clients will be waiting when you come back.

my consulting company: https://www.f19n.com/

  • asark 5 years ago

    FYI: big scary SSL warning in (at least) Chrome when I click that link.

    NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID

    This server could not prove that it is www.f19n.com; its security certificate is from *.easyname.com.

    And so on.

    ( that'll be $1,000 :-) )

  • r_smart 5 years ago

    Just a heads up: Firefox gave me a bad cert notice when I visited your site. You might be losing some business.

  • Ylodi 5 years ago

    Certificate on f19n.com is expired. ;-)

xfitm3 5 years ago

The first thing I learned about consulting is that my job is no longer about technology. It's about sales, project management, and communication. Finding a niche (I found mine by accident) led to a lot of great opportunities.

Consulting is no longer about trading hours for money, it's about building your reputation and positioning yourself as a valuable asset.

saasbuyer 5 years ago

Never charge by the hour, as it gives a ceiling to your potential earnings. Charge by the job/retainer/etc and then spend a lot of energy becoming more efficient.

  • softwaredoug 5 years ago

    But beware you take on a ton of risk, especially as complexity and size of project grows. Many clients will also divide the price by how many hours they think you’re working and still think in hourly terms...

  • crispyambulance 5 years ago

    Different billing schemes are appropriate for different projects and clients.

    "Time and materials" billing is totally appropriate if the two parties trust each other and the nature of the project is open-ended or loose about the deliverable.

vbsteven 5 years ago

Make sure you are really good at what you want to consult on. Find your niche. It helps if you've been doing the same thing as an employee for a while so you already have references. Or if possible start doing it "on the side" for a while to build up some experience.

For me my niche is making already built PoC projects ready for production and scaling those. So I target small startups typically with 1 to 5 developers with a PoC built, some traction and a good funding round so they can bring me in with my experience to stabilize/deploy/scale their product and build proper development, testing and deployment practices.

I've been doing that for years, first as an employee, then combined consulting with employee work and since 2015 switched to full time consulting. I have built up a network of investors and people in the local startup scene and whenever my current contracts are almost finished I start pinging those contacts for more companies that fit the criteria.

DyslexicAtheist 5 years ago

Depending on skills you can earn a magnificent hourly rate in comparison to full-time employment and have more freedom in the types of projects you pick. Location matters a lot though. Be ready to jump on a plane / train to discuss with potential clients. It takes a lot of grit especially if you build your own client base and wish to avoid middle-men who broker to the larger companies.

For larger firms though you won't get in without middleman (because of preferred supplier lists (PSL)). The bigger players pay you usually competitive rates (unless the middleman is fucking with you which is rare but happens), but you won't own the relationship with the client (the middleman does). Work for smaller firms and you run a higher risk of losing money, not getting paid or getting shafted simply because they think they can.

Ask a lawyer to help you draft contract templates which reflect how you envision any business relationship and then make your clients that you work for directly sign that (rather than expecting them to talk to their own lawyer which the won't do if they never considered bringing in a freelancer).

Find other freelancers in your region to speak to and get a feel for what they charge and how they go about acquiring new clients.

Biggest question when pitching to middlemen is "do you have any freelance/consulting" experience. If no this will be a read flag. So be creative to get your foot in the door.

Ensure you stay on their radar: Send your professional profile to every middle-man in the country and keep updating them with the latest version and your current availability.

Always say yes to any opportunity when asked for an interview (even you're busy right now with something else, or it is slightly off-topic for you). It's a chance to network and to practice your pitch (practicing the skills of interviewing and marketing your skills/brand is even more important than knowing your technical stuff, the latter should be taken for granted).

Gerald M. Weinberg's "The Secrets of Consulting" is excellent for anyone starting out in consulting or for those who consider hiring them (in any case your world might never be quite the same after reading this book):

https://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Consulting-Giving-Getting-Suc...

  • gk1 5 years ago

    I’m an independent consultant and am on the supplier list for a Fortune 10 company. If your client is a decision maker at the company and they value your service enough, then they will get you on the list.

  • barry-cotter 5 years ago

    > For larger firms though you won't get in without middleman (because of preferred supplier lists (PSL)).

    If that’s true for you then you’re either a freelancer, not a consultant, or you’re not charging enough/not in enough demand that they’re willing to work with you one on one.

    Nick Disabato has one employee and charges $15,000 and up a quarter for Draft Revise. Do you think he goes through a preferred supplier list? By the same token, when patio11 was a one man consulting firm charging $10-30K for a week’s onsite consulting you think he went though a recruiter?

    https://draft.nu/revise/

    > Draft Revise engagements are serious, long-term, design-driven, and consultative. We are not a chop-shop contractor, and we do everything in our power to be worth your time and your business's money. Before you send this application, we ask that you be prepared to commit to upfront fees at or above USD $15,000 for our first quarter of work together. The final fee we quote for you will be based on the value we're capable of providing for your business.

    • koboll 5 years ago

      >If that’s true for you then you’re either a freelancer, not a consultant, or you’re not charging enough/not in enough demand that they’re willing to work with you one on one.

      I think they were speaking to the OP, who seems to not yet be a consultant, as they are considering "Becoming" one

    • mongol 5 years ago

      For large enough companies I don't think it matters. They might take on consultants on top executive level but from the page you quote

      "Are you making over $2M from your store, but haven’t taken the time to optimize it?".

      This is small potatoes for the larger companies and it is simply not worthwhile to negotiate individual contracts on the scale they operate. Unless you are on top executive level, maybe.

jypepin 5 years ago

I operate as a full time consultant (more like as a full time studio) and although getting my first clients was easy, I'm not having a roadblock on how to get new business. My clients are all happy and I've asked for referrals, and I'm sure they'll do without issue once they meet someone looking, but until then I'm not sure what to do...

  • phpnode 5 years ago

    You just have to reach out to people, you can't expect to sustainably rely on referrals for growth. Remember that your existing clients have no incentive at all to refer you to other people and in most cases are disincentivised from doing so. Instead use your success with your existing clients as social proof when approaching other companies in their niche: "we just delivered X, Y and Z to CompanyYouveHeardOf, let's talk" is a great way to open a conversation with those other companies.

  • toyg 5 years ago

    In a similar boat - I have a couple of customers that generate repeated business more or less regularly, but have no idea how to generate more. My niche is very profitable but very small and not really based around where I live. I am also really lazy...

    I'm tempted to give a spin to Linkedin premium features, or just exit the niche and sell myself as a regular coder.

  • Nextgrid 5 years ago

    LinkedIn can be an option.

soVeryTired 5 years ago

>In the pin factory, when learning comes first, we neither expect nor want the workers to improvise on any aspect of the product, except to produce it more efficiently.

Sounds like a Dickensian nightmare to me. I would have thought some of the best placed people to suggest improvements are the people who build the pins, second only to people who use the pins every day.

Stay classy HBR.

  • nerdponx 5 years ago

    You wouldn't want them to be improvising while on the assembly line. You want their feedback, just not while they're supposed to be making pins.

    If they're in a position where they need to be improvising in order to make pins correctly or efficiently, that's a bad sign.

playing_colours 5 years ago

I regularly see the salaries in FAANG companies; a senior specialist can make 400k a year there. Does it make sense to be a freelancer in the US with all hustle attached, if you can just put on "golden handcuffs", and make similar or more money at a large corp?

skizm 5 years ago

On a related topic, what are people's thoughts on most lucrative niche / products to consult for? Salesforce, Oracle, Atlassian, etc? I feel like being a general programming / web development services consultant isn't going to get you the big bucks unless you really excel in that field, and you'll still probably need a niche.

A while back I was at a company that specialized in Sun Identity Management consulting. Not sexy, sure, but they charged clients in the $250-300 per hour per resource (developer) range for projects that spanned several months. This was back in 2008-2012.

  • rchaud 5 years ago

    Best way to find out is to look at the top companies in your metropolitan area, and see if there's someone in your LinkedIn network at any of those companies you could reach out to and ask.

    Stuff I've seen consultants getting hired for: - Salesforce implementation - Sharepoint implementation - AWS/Azure implementation

    Again, depends heavily on what issues companies in your area are facing, that they're not looking to hire FT for.

gfunk911 5 years ago

Toptal is a great place to start. I used them for a while after I quit a previous job. It won't teach you how to find your own clients, but it will help ease you in.

jtrtoo 5 years ago

Hi. That's quite a topic! I've been consulting as my primary source of income going on 13 years consecutively (and consulting / freelancing for far longer than that).

I occasionally post about my experiences. Perhaps you'll find something useful in my archives: https://joshrichards.net/tag/self-employment/

flurdy 5 years ago

If you are leaning more towards contracting than consultancy then I did write up some practical starter tips [1]. Note it is biased towards my situation at the time, IT related contractor based in London, but I think it holds up as general advice elsewhere as well.

[1] https://blog.flurdy.com/2015/10/contracting-101.html

jorgeleo 5 years ago

My personal experience: Having a successful consultancy depends on producing the best products for your best clients.

Which means it depends a lot on your ability to find clients, and get rid of the bad ones.

Bad client meaning the one costing you money, for example by not paying the invoices, or always wanting free stuff.

So ask yourself, How do I get good at marketing and sales? How can I sell the project bu subcontract the developers?

vanderburgt 5 years ago

Three books that should get you into the consultant state of mind:

1. The McKinsey Way by Ethan M. Rasiel

2. The Consultant's Handbook by Samir Parikh

3. Selling to Big Companies by Jill Konrath

Good luck!

edw519 5 years ago

Sorry to say, it looks like you're approaching this backwards.

You shouldn't be looking for resources, steps, advice, pitfalls, experiences, or anything else.

You should be looking for a customer whose hair is on fire.

Then, and only then, should you be looking for whatever it takes to build them a fire extinguisher. Anything else is a waste of time.

  • PopeDotNinja 5 years ago

    > You should be looking for a customer whose hair is on fire.

    Maybe when their hair is smoking. It's easier to help a client who is sufficiently motivated. It's harder to help a client who is completely panicked & out of control.

  • abledon 5 years ago

    so you go out searching for work and not necessarily know you can 'solve' or 'build' the solution beforehand? seems kinda risky

pythonbase 5 years ago

Some great tips shared in this thread.

I'd also suggest reading up and following Jonathan Stark and his ditching hourly mantra.

mrmrcoleman 5 years ago

First figure out whether you’re an actual consultant or an external/freelancer.

If you’re a freelancer the bar is fairly low, if you’re a consultant you should really be bringing more to the table.

Read the secrets of consulting by Gerry Weinberg.

Network with other consultants, they’ll become a major source of new work for you.

acro5piano 5 years ago

I have been working as a consultant/contractor since April last year.

Writing a lot of good blog posts is the best. Sometimes people contact me directly via my blog.

Now software developers are shortage, so you can find your clients easily. Good luck!

dbinder 5 years ago

Check out www.hyke.me. They helped setup my LLC and S-Corp. They offer a bunch of services specifically aimed at back-office work for freelancers. Good people and super helpful.

baybal2 5 years ago

Reputation/connections... Been a GM/VP in an MNC? That level is what people look for in consulting deals.

chrisa 5 years ago

I wrote several blog posts and a little guide about to get your first client as a software consultant: https://www.breakintoconsulting.com/

Short version: become a "visible expert" in your field (blog posts, ebook, meetup talks), and then connect with people who might need your service.

spacedog11 5 years ago

This is something that I am interested in learning about.

finnley 5 years ago

Be prepared to spend a lot of time building up your professional network and brand - and never stop. When times are good, you'll feel like you can stop because opportunities are all over the place. When times aren't so good, you're going to want to avoid scrambling for more work.

Good luck.

  • maxxxxx 5 years ago

    That’s a very important point. Most of us will have a tendency to focus on the tech work but the real key to success is to always network and making connections. Also learn how to talk to C level execs because in the end they have control over the budgets and that’s where the money is. Also learn how to present your work. Doing a good job by itself is not worth much if nobody knows about it.

europsucks 5 years ago

I started by tagging along with a friend, who recommended me for a project he was already working for. It was easier to find the courage that way.

The next time somebody hired my, I simply said I'd prefer to work on a freelance basis. They were OK with it, however, because of my lack of experience with freelancing, I accepted a rate that was much too low. So that may be an easy way into becoming a consultant: just say you want to be a consultant...

I figured that out when I became I'll - nothing serious, but I realized I need to ask for more money to compensate for downtimes and risks that employees don't have (also, saving for my own retirement).

After that, I also registered with some freelance sites, like Jobserve and Gulp (latter might be a German thing, but they offered nice statistics for average salaries).

Because I struggle with occasional burnout or simply hating my job, I din't even do much of the network building or friend recommendations. But recruiters keep calling, just as long your CV has the right keywords. Even long gaps of "unemployment" don't seem to matter that much.

However, for the same reason, these days I would almost recommend against sending out your CV or registering with recruiting agencies. Now my profile is out there, and I can not retract it very easily. So I keep getting those calls, even though I don't really want them anymore. I'd say if you can get by without sending out your CV, it would be better.

I haven't really cut ties completely - maybe if I told those recruiters that I definitely don't want to be called ever again, they would comply. But I wouldn't count on it - in general, they just ignore "wishes" in the CV, like preferences for locations to work in.

I was also that way probably not necessarily getting the best jobs (in terms of interestingness, the pay was always OK). It was more "crap, my bank account is running low, I better accept this contract", rather than strategically working towards work I would like. A bit of a "golden handcuffs" problem, I guess - you have to say no to good offers to be available for the ones you actually want.

This may have been more serious for me than it sounds - by being stuck in dreadful Java Enterprise projects, job frustration would mount again, causing me to quit for months, causing me to eventually accept the next best offer, for the cycle to repeat. Maybe with a more proactive way of acquiring contracts, the frustration cycle could have been avoided altogether. (Not sure, though).

Nevertheless, overall I think consulting is great in principle. You earn more money, see more different companies and projects, and the hiring process is not that fucked up. Usually they give you an initial contract for a month, to see if you work out. So they don't have to evaluate you for weeks and weeks to see if you are a good fit. If you are not, they simply don't extend your contract.

  • europsucks 5 years ago

    Editing of posts seems to be broken. Sorry for the typos. Also had added some more thoughts on liability for neglience and signing NDAs which are now lost, but I don't want to try again.